{"id":45795,"date":"2021-07-13T20:31:00","date_gmt":"2021-07-14T02:31:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dh.durangoherald.com\/tj\/little-evidence-of-significant-bloodletting-in-redwines-living-room-defense-expert-says\/"},"modified":"2026-03-31T03:27:25","modified_gmt":"2026-03-31T09:27:25","slug":"little-evidence-of-significant-bloodletting-in-redwines-living-room-defense-expert-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dh.durangoherald.com\/tj\/little-evidence-of-significant-bloodletting-in-redwines-living-room-defense-expert-says\/","title":{"rendered":"Little evidence of significant bloodletting in Redwine\u2019s living room, defense expert says"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><figure class=\"wp-block-image naviga-inline-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/imengine.public.prod.dur.navigacloud.com\/?uuid=74455f66-df29-5822-9523-56120ffa52d2&amp;function=cover&amp;type=preview&amp;source=false&amp;width=2000\" width=\"1280\" height=\"720\" alt=\"The inside of Mark Redwine's living room as photographed by investigators after Dylan Redwine's disappearance. A defense expert testified Tuesday that there was no sign of a significant bloodletting event in the living room. (Courtesy of 6th Judicial District Court)\" class=\"naviga-image\" loading=\"lazy\"><figcaption><span class=\"caption\">The inside of Mark Redwine's living room as photographed by investigators after Dylan Redwine's disappearance. A defense expert testified Tuesday that there was no sign of a significant bloodletting event in the living room. (Courtesy of 6th Judicial District Court)<\/span><span class=\"credit\">cca<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p>Mark Redwine\u2019s living room did not show evidence of a major bloodletting event after chemical testing and analysis at the home, a forensic scientist told jurors Tuesday.<\/p>\n<p>Richard Eikelenboom said the often-used chemical agent luminol detects traces of blood at crime scenes not perceivable to the naked eye, including after a suspect attempts to clean the scene. The chemical reacts to certain compounds in substances, like iron in blood, and creates a blue glow.<\/p>\n<p>But he told the jury luminol is not an entirely reliable tool because other substances, like bleach, can give off fluorescence.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think every crime scene you go to, you will find false positives,\u201d Eikelenboom said.<\/p>\n<p><figure class=\"wp-block-image naviga-inline-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/imengine.public.prod.dur.navigacloud.com\/?uuid=91d33d62-f429-5b1f-b43f-dbb945040a9c&amp;function=cover&amp;type=preview&amp;source=false&amp;width=2000\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1118\" alt=\"Richard Eikelenboom, a forensic scientist, looks over evidence as he testifies Tuesday during the trial for Mark Redwine in Durango. Redwine is charged with second-degree murder and child abuse resulting in the death of his son, Dylan. (Jerry McBride\/Durango Herald)\" class=\"naviga-image\" loading=\"lazy\"><figcaption><span class=\"caption\">Richard Eikelenboom, a forensic scientist, looks over evidence as he testifies Tuesday during the trial for Mark Redwine in Durango. Redwine is charged with second-degree murder and child abuse resulting in the death of his son, Dylan. (Jerry McBride\/Durango Herald)<\/span><span class=\"credit\">cca<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p>But prosecutor Fred Johnson pointed out that further tests were completed to confirm the presence of blood at Redwine\u2019s Vallecito home, and each sample came back positive.<\/p>\n<p>Traces of blood were found in several locations of the living room, including on a couch cushion, love seat cushion, floor underneath a rug, rug in front of a loveseat and a coffee table. But most of those locations created small points of illumination using luminol, some as small as a dime. Those could have been the result of getting a small cut, flossing or picking a scab, Eikelenboom said.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video wp-block-embed-youtube naviga-video-embed\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/UvI8H-NOz3c\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p>The traces do not suggest a major bloodletting event, such as what might be expected after blunt force trauma, Eikelenboom said.<\/p>\n<p>Earlier testimony from expert witnesses concluded Redwine\u2019s son, Dylan Redwine, endured blunt force trauma based on fractures on the boy\u2019s skull at or near the time of death.<\/p>\n<p>Karen Alexander, Redwine\u2019s former girlfriend, told jurors Monday that Dylan accidentally cut his finger while cooking dinner over Labor Day weekend in 2011. Some blood dripped in the living room, Alexander said, where trace elements were found.<\/p>\n<p><figure class=\"wp-block-image naviga-inline-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/imengine.public.prod.dur.navigacloud.com\/?uuid=f60afc88-f475-5010-ad7d-925bc289688b&amp;function=cover&amp;type=preview&amp;source=false&amp;width=2000\" width=\"1387\" height=\"1165\" alt=\"Mark Redwine listens to Richard Eikelenboom, a forensic scientist, as he testifies Tuesday during his trial at the La Plata County Courthouse. Redwine is charged with second-degree murder and child abuse resulting in the death of his son, Dylan. (Jerry McBride\/Durango Herald)\" class=\"naviga-image\" loading=\"lazy\"><figcaption><span class=\"caption\">Mark Redwine listens to Richard Eikelenboom, a forensic scientist, as he testifies Tuesday during his trial at the La Plata County Courthouse. Redwine is charged with second-degree murder and child abuse resulting in the death of his son, Dylan. (Jerry McBride\/Durango Herald)<\/span><span class=\"credit\">cca<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p>Redwine is charged with second-degree murder and child abuse resulting in the death of his 13-year-old son. Prosecutors say Redwine killed his son in a fit of rage after Dylan confronted him about sordid photos.<\/p>\n<p>Defense attorneys say it is possible Dylan was attacked and killed by wildlife in the rugged mountains surrounding the father\u2019s home north of Vallecito Reservoir, 21 miles northeast of Durango.<\/p>\n<p>Witness testimony and closing arguments are expected to conclude this week, and jurors could begin deliberations as soon as Thursday or Friday.<\/p>\n<p><figure class=\"wp-block-image naviga-inline-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/imengine.public.prod.dur.navigacloud.com\/?uuid=c7044df5-d54c-5c4d-a962-d2f0f2103b98&amp;function=cover&amp;type=preview&amp;source=false&amp;width=2000\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1052\" alt=\"Mark Redwine, left, and his defense team listen to Richard Eikelenboom, a forensic scientist, testify Tuesday in Durango. Mark Redwine is suspected of second-degree murder and child abuse resulting in death. (Jerry McBride\/Durango Herald)\" class=\"naviga-image\" loading=\"lazy\"><figcaption><span class=\"caption\">Mark Redwine, left, and his defense team listen to Richard Eikelenboom, a forensic scientist, testify Tuesday in Durango. Mark Redwine is suspected of second-degree murder and child abuse resulting in death. (Jerry McBride\/Durango Herald)<\/span><span class=\"credit\">cca<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p>Eikelenboom showed the court images of previous crime scenes he has analyzed, including a case of homicide by blunt force trauma in which large bloodstains were found after using luminol at the scene.<\/p>\n<p>But Eikelenboom acknowledged it is possible a violent event occurred in Redwine\u2019s living room, even though the scene did not appear to be bloody.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSome violence, you don\u2019t have much bloodletting,\u201d Eikelenboom said.<\/p>\n<p>If cleanup of blood is attempted, it is nearly impossible to remove all traces, he said.<\/p>\n<p>Cleanup also differs by the surface. Smooth surfaces, like a hard floor or table, are easier to clean. But other surfaces like carpet are more difficult, he said.<\/p>\n<p>Small illuminations can show up even in a home where no murder or significant bloodletting occurred, he said. The application of luminol can also disturb evidence, like blood, because of the soluble nature of both elements, Eikelenboom said.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video wp-block-embed-youtube naviga-video-embed\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/sAJI5qgWJBc\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p>During cross-examination, Johnson noted Eikelenboom has little experience in fresh crime scenes in the last 15 years.<\/p>\n<p>Eikelenboom and his wife, Selma Eikelenboom, own Independent Forensic Services, a private laboratory specializing in bloodstain analysis, crime scene reconstruction and DNA. The lab previously worked on prominent cases, including those involving Casey Anthony, Aaron Hernandez and JonBenet Ramsey.<\/p>\n<p><figure class=\"wp-block-image naviga-inline-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/imengine.public.prod.dur.navigacloud.com\/?uuid=16b80a4f-f080-50e4-ab3f-239768ab833e&amp;function=cover&amp;type=preview&amp;source=false&amp;width=2000\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1092\" alt=\"Jeffrey R. Wilson, chief judge of the 6th Judicial District, listens to prosecutor Fred Johnson cross examine Richard Eikelenboom, a forensic scientist, on Tuesday at the La Plata County Courthouse. Mark Redwine is charged with second-degree murder and child abuse resulting in death. (Jerry McBride\/Durango Herald)\" class=\"naviga-image\" loading=\"lazy\"><figcaption><span class=\"caption\">Jeffrey R. Wilson, chief judge of the 6th Judicial District, listens to prosecutor Fred Johnson cross examine Richard Eikelenboom, a forensic scientist, on Tuesday at the La Plata County Courthouse. Mark Redwine is charged with second-degree murder and child abuse resulting in death. (Jerry McBride\/Durango Herald)<\/span><span class=\"credit\">cca<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p>Johnson quizzed Eikelenboom about certain details of the Redwine case, including when Dylan went missing, when his remains were found and how often Dylan visited his father in Vallecito. Eikelenboom was unable to answer any of the questions, among others.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo you have an opinion as to whether his blood may be in the living room naturally, inadvertently, and you don\u2019t know how many days he\u2019s been in that house?\u201d Johnson asked.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt would be relevant, I think,\u201d Eikelenboom responded.<\/p>\n<p><figure class=\"wp-block-image naviga-inline-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/imengine.public.prod.dur.navigacloud.com\/?uuid=cf93b70a-b5db-54f5-a85a-86e8f1e0b056&amp;function=cover&amp;type=preview&amp;source=false&amp;width=2000\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1165\" alt=\"Angela Lee, with the U.S. Postal Service, said Tuesday she isn\u2019t sure if she saw Dylan Redwine walking the morning of Nov. 19, 2012, the day the 13-year-old boy was reported missing. (Jerry McBride\/Durango Herald)\" class=\"naviga-image\" loading=\"lazy\"><figcaption><span class=\"caption\">Angela Lee, with the U.S. Postal Service, said Tuesday she isn\u2019t sure if she saw Dylan Redwine walking the morning of Nov. 19, 2012, the day the 13-year-old boy was reported missing. (Jerry McBride\/Durango Herald)<\/span><span class=\"credit\">cca<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><div class=\"naviga-element naviga-subheadline1\">Did postal worker see Dylan?<\/div>\n<p>Angela Lee, a longtime postal worker in the Vallecito area, testified Tuesday she saw two boys walking near Vallecito Reservoir about 10 a.m. Nov. 19 \u2013 the day Dylan went missing.<\/p>\n<p>She said she was about 50% sure it was Dylan, but at other times during her testimony she said she couldn\u2019t be sure at all.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe boy kind of reminded me of Dylan,\u201d Lee said. \u201cI couldn\u2019t be, you know, for sure, because I just barely glanced at them.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video wp-block-embed-youtube naviga-video-embed\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/cIzoDBYxuig\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p>If Lee did see Dylan, it would cast doubt on the prosecution\u2019s timeline, suggesting the boy was alive after Redwine left the house to run errands. It would also suggest Dylan met up with a friend to go somewhere on his own volition.<\/p>\n<p>Lee said she saw Dylan sporadically on her route when the boy was in town visiting.<\/p>\n<p>Lee\u2019s coworker heard her talking about the possible sighting and notified law enforcement. Lee didn\u2019t call law enforcement herself because she was unsure if one of the boys was really Dylan, she said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI was never sure, ever,\u201d Lee said.<\/p>\n<p><em id=\"emphasis-a31cadb5a71de981109dab052e31f2df\">Kaela Roeder is an intern for The Durango Herald and The Journal in Cortez and a 2021 graduate of American University in Washington, D.C.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>carrier unsure if she saw Dylan morning of disappearance<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":45796,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[1078,168,519,28,131,4531,525,1500,316],"naviga_topic":[],"class_list":["post-45795","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","tag-6th-judicial-district","tag-crime","tag-dylan-redwine","tag-headlines","tag-homicide","tag-mark-redwine","tag-trials","tag-vallecito","tag-video"],"acf":[],"author_name":"dh_admin","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dh.durangoherald.com\/tj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45795","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dh.durangoherald.com\/tj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dh.durangoherald.com\/tj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dh.durangoherald.com\/tj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dh.durangoherald.com\/tj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=45795"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/dh.durangoherald.com\/tj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45795\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":86637,"href":"https:\/\/dh.durangoherald.com\/tj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45795\/revisions\/86637"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dh.durangoherald.com\/tj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/45796"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dh.durangoherald.com\/tj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=45795"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dh.durangoherald.com\/tj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=45795"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dh.durangoherald.com\/tj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=45795"},{"taxonomy":"naviga_topic","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dh.durangoherald.com\/tj\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/naviga_topic?post=45795"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}